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rata refresh lcd

buna. Sa descriu intai problema: am un monitor wide lg (un 204), si am hotarat eu ca placa radeon 9600 numai face fata cerintelor, am cumparat alta , un radeon x1650, am instalat-o in windows unde a mers perfect cu setarile pt monitor 1680x1050 pe 32 biti cu rata de refresh 60, in linux mandriva 2007.1 a reusti sa imi bage pe gat rezolutia 1680x1050 pe 24 biti (alta varianta nu am pt a alege), dupa instalare, dupa primul restart, ecranul e negru, iar pe monitor imi apare scris digital out of range 93.5 khz / 170 hz, ma uit pe net si aflu la un tip ca ar fi rezolvat scriind la vertical refresh doar 60, am incercat si degeaba, cu drakconf nu am reusit sa gasesc sa schim refresh-ul, si acuma intrebarea: cum pot rezolva sa numai am ecranul negru?

cgherman
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vezi modifica in /etc/X11/xorg.conf

tracul
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Eu am patit ceva asemanator cu o placa video Nvidia si cu un LG 192WS . Nu cred ca este
de la refresh . S-ar putea sa ma insel dar asta e specific CRT . Cand schimbam rezolutia
la 1440 cu 900 cat este indicat pentru acest monitor primeam acelas mesaj .
In cazul meu a fost suficient sa instalez driverul propietar de la Nvidia si sa schimb rezolutia
din nvidia-settings . Poate ca in cazul tau va functiona ceva asemanator .

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- si ce sa modific in xorg?
- am incercat si cu driverul proprietar ati cel mai nou, degeaba

MaTricks
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Asa arata la mine in xorg.conf sectiunea monitor.
La mine e vorba de un laptop, deci rezolutiile nu iti potrivesc, dar poate fi o solutie sa ajungi la intergata grafica, apoi sa refaci anumite setari.

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Plug'n Play"
    ModelName ""
    HorizSync 31.5-51
    VertRefresh 55-63
   
    # Monitor preferred modeline (60.2 Hz vsync, 48.9 kHz hsync, ratio 16/10)
    ModeLine "1280x800" 68.9 1280 1304 1336 1408 800 801 804 813 -hsync -vsync
   
    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"    50.00  768  832  846 1000  576  590  595  630
   
    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"    63.07  768  800  960 1024  576  578  590  616
   
    # modeline generated by gtf(1) [handled by XFdrake]
    ModeLine "1280x800_120"  181.21  1280 1376 1520 1760  800 801 804 858  -HSync +Vsync
   
    # modeline generated by gtf(1) [handled by XFdrake]
    ModeLine "1280x800_100"  147.89  1280 1376 1512 1744  800 801 804 848  -HSync +Vsync
   
    # modeline generated by gtf(1) [handled by XFdrake]
    ModeLine "1280x800_85"  123.38  1280 1368 1504 1728  800 801 804 840  -HSync +Vsync
   
    # modeline generated by gtf(1) [handled by XFdrake]
    ModeLine "1280x800_75"  107.21  1280 1360 1496 1712  800 801 804 835  -HSync +Vsync
   
    # modeline generated by gtf(1) [handled by XFdrake]
    ModeLine "1280x800_60"  83.46  1280 1344 1480 1680  800 801 804 828  -HSync +Vsync
   
    # modeline generated by gtf(1) [handled by XFdrake]
    ModeLine "1280x800_50"  68.56  1280 1336 1472 1664  800 801 804 824  -HSync +Vsync
EndSection

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N3o
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Si eu m-am lovit de o problema asemanatoare si anume rata de refresh era la maxim (75) si am vrut sa o reduc la valoarea normala de 60 si am rezolvat in nvidia-settings. Inteleg ca tu nu ai o placa nvidia dar cred ca exista ceva asemanator si pentru ATI.

Daca poti modifica din setarile ati atunci fa intai un backup la xorg.conf care il ai si abia dupa modifica. Asta pentru ca e posibil ca xorg.conf sa nu mai arate la fel (unele linii sa fie modificate cu totul si de exemplu alea pentru activarea 3D sa nu mai existe). Eu asa am facut si am luat din xorg.conf facut de nvidia-settings sectiunea "Monitor" , "Screen" (cu toate subsectiunile "Display") si le-am pus in xorg.conf ce il aveam inainte si merge brici! Ai mare grija cum editezi in locurile astea! (totul trebuie sa se pupe, adica nu poti pune in "Screen" la Device "device0" daca la sectiunea "Device" Identifier ai pus "device1" samd.)

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
......................................

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
......................................

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"

........................................

Section "ServerLayout"
    ......................
    Screen "screen1"

Succes!

tracul
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  Se pare ca intr-adevar un LCD nu are refresh rate . Cred ca proplema ta este in alta parte .
Stiu ca nu este un ajutor dar poate vei gasi problema reala .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate#LCD_displays

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ce am gasit pe forum la mandriva.com, scris de un admin prin iulie 2007 : "Sorry for being unclear.

'Free driver' refers to the X.org native driver for ATI cards. I call it the 'free driver' because it's free-as-in-speech. You could also call it 'radeon'.

The alternative is what I'd call the 'proprietary driver', which is the closed-source driver made by ATI themselves and available from http://www.ati.com. You could also call it 'fglrx'.

The situation with your card is that the 'free driver' - the one in X.org - simply doesn't support your card at all. The proprietary driver should, but you're having trouble with it.

The reason the x1300-x1800 entry works is actually quite simple. It is configured to let you choose between one of two drivers. If your repositories are set up to make the proprietary driver available, it will ask you if you want to use it. If you answer 'yes', it will configure the proprietary driver. If the proprietary driver is not available or you answer 'no', it falls back to a backup driver: not the free driver, since that doesn't work with these cards, but fbdev, which is a general-purpose driver that uses the graphics card's framebuffer. Generic drivers like fbdev (also 'vga' and 'vesa') will work with a very wide range of cards, including cards that don't work with any other driver, but because they're generic and not tailored for the hardware, they are much slower and lack certain features.

The free driver is in the x11-driver-video-ati package. You would enable it by installing that package then manually selecting the 'ati' driver in XFdrake or editing xorg.conf and changing the Driver setting to "ati", not "fglrx" or "fbdev". But I'll save you the trouble: it really, truly won't work. It has absolutely no support for Radeons later than the X850. It doesn't even recognize their PCI IDs. It has no idea what to do with them.

the driver in 2007 Spring does include support for the cards in question, that's the thing  it's not that there's no support, it's that there's some kind of bug, but we're not getting far in identifying it

yeah, me being aware of it means the company is aware of it.

it's possible that it's actually a problem with the ATI drivers themselves, in which case we need to make ATI aware of it, but we haven't established that yet.

my plan to tackle this is basically to get an ATI driver maintainer (we don't actually currently have one - staffing changes) and then get the latest version of the ATI driver uploaded to 2007 Spring /non-free/testing. at which point I will get you guys to try it out and see whether it sorts out this problem. timeframe on this depends entirely on when I manage to persuade Anne to appoint an ATI driver maintainer...

that's odd, One and Powerpack use the same proprietary driver and configuration routines, so the result should be the same.

the problem with the backup driver is that the good Radeon driver (radeon) doesn't work with X1xxx series cards yet, so we have to use a generic fallback driver. In 2007 Spring it was set to fbdev, in Cooker I've just changed it to vesa, which should be a bit better. But both suck compared to a dedicated driver...

Can you maybe post /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log from a failed attempt to start X with the proprietary driver? thanks."

cu alte cuvinte e un bug care pare a fi de la driverul proprietar ati, sunt afectate toata seria de placi x1300-x1900, mor de ciuda, m-am chinuit sa cumpar ceva mai bun si acum numai pot folosi mandriva; cea mai mare rezolutie cu care merge este 1280x1024 (si se vede naspa), am incercat mandriva 2008.0 beta si fedora 7 , ambele imi baga implicit rezolutia 1280x1024, interesant e ca dupa ce am incercat sa "fortez" si am bagat in xorg.conf 60 la vertical sync si la rezolutie am lasat 1680x1050 ci 60 hz, nu imi mai aprea blank screen cand intram ci imi intra in mod text; cica cineva a reusit sa bage 1680x1050 cu 55 hz, o sa incerc sa vad daca mere, o sa postez mai acusi si xorg.conf-ul meu.

adyx
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Legat de refresh (am inteles ca nu e de acolo dar ca idee). In consola lansezi drakxconf si selectezi Display iar daca alegi Digital Flat Panel de "rezolutia ta" automat vei avea un refresh vertical de 60Hz pentru ca este specific acetui tip de display. O sa-l vezi afisat la setarile finale.

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.
A.E.

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am doar optiunea la Generic - Flat Panel 1680x1050, o aleg, dar degeaba, tot blank screen, asa arta xorg.conf:

"# File generated by XFdrake (rev 142098)

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
    # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    FontPath "unix/:-1"
   
    # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    Load "extmod"
    Load "type1"
    Load "freetype"
    Load "glx" # 3D layer
    Load "dri" # direct rendering
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Keyboard1"
    Driver "kbd"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse1"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Plug'n Play"
    ModelName "L204WT "
    HorizSync 28-83
    VertRefresh 56-75
   
    # Monitor preferred modeline (60.0 Hz vsync, 65.3 kHz hsync, ratio 16/10)
    ModeLine "1680x1050" 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 +hsync -vsync
   
    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"    50.00  768  832  846 1000  576  590  595  630
   
    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"    63.07  768  800  960 1024  576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
    BoardName "ATI Radeon X1300 - X1950"
    Driver "fglrx"
    Option "DPMS"
   
    # === disable PnP Monitor  ===
    #Option                              "NoDDC"
    # === disable/enable XAA/DRI ===
    Option "no_accel"                  "no"
    Option "no_dri"                    "no"
    # === FireGL DDX driver module specific settings ===
    # === Screen Management ===
    Option "DesktopSetup"              "0x00000000"
    Option "MonitorLayout"              "AUTO, AUTO"
    Option "IgnoreEDID"                "off"
    Option "HSync2"                    "unspecified"
    Option "VRefresh2"                  "unspecified"
    Option "ScreenOverlap"              "0"
    # === TV-out Management ===
    Option "NoTV"                      "yes"   
    Option "TVStandard"                "NTSC-M"   
    Option "TVHSizeAdj"                "0"   
    Option "TVVSizeAdj"                "0"   
    Option "TVHPosAdj"                  "0"   
    Option "TVVPosAdj"                  "0"   
    Option "TVHStartAdj"                "0"   
    Option "TVColorAdj"                "0"   
    Option "GammaCorrectionI"          "0x00000000"
    Option "GammaCorrectionII"          "0x00000000"
    # === OpenGL specific profiles/settings ===
    Option "Capabilities"              "0x00000000"
    # === Video Overlay for the Xv extension ===
    Option "VideoOverlay"              "on"
    # === OpenGL Overlay ===
    # Note: When OpenGL Overlay is enabled, Video Overlay
    #      will be disabled automatically
    Option "OpenGLOverlay"              "off"
    Option "CenterMode"                "off"
    # === QBS Support ===
    Option "Stereo"                    "off"
    Option "StereoSyncEnable"          "1"
    # === Misc Options ===
    Option "UseFastTLS"                "0"
    Option "BlockSignalsOnLock"        "on"
    Option "UseInternalAGPGART"        "no"
    Option "ForceGenericCPU"            "no"
    # === FSAA ===
    Option "FSAAScale"                  "1"
    Option "FSAADisableGamma"          "no"
    Option "FSAACustomizeMSPos"        "no"
    Option "FSAAMSPosX0"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosY0"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosX1"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosY1"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosX2"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosY2"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosX3"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosY3"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosX4"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosY4"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosX5"                "0.000000"
    Option "FSAAMSPosY5"                "0.000000"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24
   
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
   
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
   
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
   
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    Screen "screen1"
EndSection

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am instalat si fedora 7, mandriva 2008 beta 1 si 2, degeaba...careva cu idei?